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Interview from Nucleus Magazine - Argentina

Original link - http://www.nucleusprog.com.ar/ingles/r-ron_anderson.htm

 

RON ANDERSON

"A Stranger in a Strange Earth"

 

Have not probably heard speak of Ron Anderson. Well, don't feel bad for it. 
He is not in fact the artist with but promotion inside the progressive... It is more, your work is only known by some few ones fortunate, that which represents a true injustice. 
But, Who is this intelligent and innovative musician, creator of anarchical and complex sound worlds? 

Nucleus delights in presenting it to you.

 

By Sergio Vilar

Ron, Could you speak to me of your beginnings in music?
My very first instrument was the piano. My family had one, I guess my brother tried it before I was born. So, I used to bang on it when I was very young, three or four. I took formal lessons when I was about ten. That lasted maybe one year, then I picked up the electric bass guitar when I was 14 or 15. My first guitar was an acoustic I was about 17. The first electric guitar (a Gibson) I bought at 19.
I started on bass because there was a band in my high school whose bass player had just quit. So I bought a bass, practiced for a week, and than told the guitar player of the band that I could play. As you can imagine - we were quite bad. But in about one year and half we went from doing covers of Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, and Cream to free improvisation. This is about 1975 or 76.

Who would you say that influenced your musical style the most?
This is a pretty long list that is always changing. Many things and not just things musical influence me. Frank Zappa was a very big influence. Fred Frith, Charles Mingus, Sun Ra, Miles Davis, Cecil Taylor, 20th century composers, this is just an endless list; writers, film makers, travel, New York City, the Subway is an influence. I’m influenced by the people the around me, I’m influenced by things that I have not even seen or experienced yet. Time does not travel in a straight line, but in circles. Most recently I have been listening a lot to music from North Africa, Middle East and India and Pakistan. I purchased an Oud while traveling in Turkey in last October, so I have been listening to the great Iraqi Oud player Munir Bashir. But I’m always listening to many different things; I have also fallen in love with Olivier Messiaen’s music - "Vingt Regards sur L, Enfant Jesus", very incredible piano music.  

Besides those influences, what did it take you to compose this difficult music style?
I enjoy difficult music, or at least music that in some way is challenging, this does not mean necessarily technically difficult.  Simply put, I’m just trying to make music that I enjoy listening to and that is fun for me to play. It is very important for me to enjoy what I’m working on.

Could you describe each one of your projects and what they mean for you?
I have a pretty long history at this point so I will just touch on a few projects. PAK is my full time “rock band” which takes up most of my time, I compose most of the music and we have rehearsal about twice a week. RonRuins is a collaboration with the Tokyo duet Ruins who I have know for many years and have done a lot of touring with. There are two RonRuins CDs and also two CDs of duets with Tatsuya Yoshida (the drummer of Ruins) and myself. RonRuins is my chance to play with two of the finest musicians in the world. The Infusion is an improvisation ensemble that I have with two French musicians Camel Zekri and Olivier Paquotte. We have just put out a CD and will perform in May at the
Festival International de Musque Actuelle de Victoriaville in Quebec, Canada. Camel Zekri is a descendent from generations of Algerian musicians and this brings a new dimension to this “free improvisation” project. The Molecules was my band that I had while I was living in Oakland, Ca in the 1990’s. It was a band that tried to do everything at the same time with as much energy as possible. Playing in The Molecules was always great fun. I also have a few solo CDs out, Pak Small Are Half Inch and Anything Is Possible which gave me the chance to be completely self indulgent, lots of insane edits and using any sort of sound that felt right during the recording of those projects. 

How do you construct the compositions?
Most of my compositional ideas come from just improvising on the guitar (sometimes I use instruments other than guitar) and hearing an Idea that I like. After that I just try and develop it in some way. I also like to edit tape and build compositions that way, by cutting up different sections, then overdubbing other parts on top. I now have a computer for music editing so I will see how that works in place of a razor blade.

Do you think that you are arriving to a more personal and original sound?
I think that every musician is trying to find their sound, of course I’m no exception, I think I have found a sound, a way of playing that is mine. But I really do not think about that kind of thing much anymore, other people can decided if I have found my own voice or not, at this moment I just want to create when I get the inspiration. And of course One’s sound is always changing, new interests are always unfolding. I have been composing some “non-rock” music that is completely written out in music notation. I’m starting to become interested in more melodic playing, for example, on the last RonRuins CD the track called Sunset Through The Trees.

How did it affect you in your musical conception to reside you in Japan? How was your first time there?
I never actually lived in Japan, but I have been there twice on tour. The first time for ten days with The Molecules, the second time for three weeks on tour with RonRuins for ten concerts.
My first trip to Japan was just too quick, not many days off to see Japan. My second trip I had much more time just to travel, walk around Tokyo, get a better feel for the place. I’m not sure what effect going to Japan had on my playing, by the time I went there I had already had my music developed, I already knew many of the musicians who playing in the underground music scene. Of course all of my travels have some kind of effect on the music that I make (I’m sure that if I traveled to Argentina, that experience would also have it’s effect) but it’s hard to pinpoint it. I do think that I have similar ideas to many Japanese groups, and they have been an influence. I think that I have also influenced some Japanese musicians, or at least I know that we enjoy each other’s music.   

Would you say that the progressive rock that they have in Japan differs of the one that we have in the west?
I would not call the music that I know from Japan as just “progressive rock”, there are other influences as well, Punk Rock, Noise, No Wave, Free Improvisation. I think that at least the musicians that I’m familiar with are able to take many different influences and use them equally. I find the musicians there very well trained musically, of course there is nothing unique about that, but what is uncommon is that these same musicians will also let go of their technique and are able to just have some fun with their music.

What is Progressive Rock for you? Does a scene of progressive rock exist?
I know from surfing though the web that a Progressive Rock scene does exist, although I find that it mostly a scene of purists and does not interest me that much. I forgot to mention in one of the early questions that the original Progressive Rock was big influence on me; Jethro Tull, King Crimson, ect., to the more obscure; Henry Cow, Magma. What I like about most of these groups is that they tried to be different from each other or that they where open to try new Ideas. For myself I’m not a purist, I’m trying to make an exciting kind of music, in a different way, take some chances, not copy a sound that was right for 1973, if that makes my music progressive to some people then that’s great.

What are you listening to these days?
Here are ten CDs that are lying next to my CD player at the present moment.

1.  Olivier Messiaen  "Vingt Regards sur l’ Enfant Jesus" (playing now while I type this)    
2.  Ustad Hafeez Khan and Neela Bahgwat  "North Indian Vocal Music"
3.  Bela Bartok
  "Sonata for 2 Pianos and Percussion"
4.  Cecil Taylor  "Jazz Advance"
5.  Sun Ra  "Black Myth/Out In Space "
6.  Ali Akbar Moradi  "Fire Of Passion" (Kurdish Tanbur Music Of Iran)
7.  Munir Bashir  "The Art Of The Oud"
8.  Masada  "Live at Tonic"
9.  Sun Ra (The Sensational Guitars Of Dan and Dale) – "Batman and Robin"
10.Magma  "Mekamk Kammamdoh" 

The Japanese scene is generally not very well known in this part of  the world. From your recent experience, what artists from Japan would you recommend to attention to?

Another list:

1. Ruins (and related projects)
2.
Boredoms
(and related projects)
3. Haco
4. Melt Banana
5. Hoppy Kamiyama
6. Otomo Yoshide

Immediate Plans
Tour with The Infusion in May in Canada and East Coast of the USA. PAK will record a new CD this summer and then tour. I think I will do some concerts in Europe this July and August. I’m planning to do some recording very soon for Paul Lemos’ who you might remember from Controlled Bleeding, he has a new project call Breast Fed Yak. Hoping to find time to edit some video from PAK’s European tour from October 02. I hope to put out a CD of field recordings from my travels.  

Would you like to add something more Ron?
I just would like people who do not live in the USA to know that there are many people living in this country who are opposed to the war in Afghanistan and Iraq, opposed to the Bush administration and their hyper-capitalist war insanity.
I’m hoping that we can get rid of Bush and all his asshole corporate friends as soon as possible. I hope that some day they are tried as war criminals. It has been amazing to hear the lies and half-truths that come out of their mouths. Bush will say that it was unfortunate that thousands of Iraqis where killed (we never know how many) during the war but it was necessary for the “freedom” of Iraqi.
I guess one could give the argument that when you are dead you are free, but I think that the freedom that the Bush administration will be talking about, is the freedom for the USA to control the price of Oil and the freedom to choose the people it wants to run the new Iraqi “democracy”.